Spanking witnessed by others
Through comments from recent posts here and a discussion taking place on the Forum, I thought I would elaborate a little more on spankings that we have done on video in which there were others present for the punishment, that served no purpose other than simply being their to watch.
There have been times that we have filmed scenes with witnesses in which they appear on camera, just to add an element of embarrassment and the feeling of the spanking feeling more public. The picture above from Spankingteenjessica.com is a still from a video that was actually shot in the basement of my house. Just to be able to change up shoot locations we invited both Brandi and Jessica to our house for a bit of a social event, and to also do some shooting. We told them both that they could bring people as long as they realized that we would be shooting and that anyone there would be able to watch. To our surprise they both brought a male friend to the house. In the scene above we decided to take advantage of the fact that there were 7 people present beyond the two girls, and we just placed everyone in one room and did a couple of very public spanking scenes. The scenes were shot from angles that did not reveal the faces of those that were not models, but it added a new element to the scenes. I have read countless true accounts in which many people who were spanked as kids, were spanked in the living room, regardless of who was present, so it made sense to try and film something like this while we had an audience.
The most common occurrence of witnesses to a spanking in our shoots, is generally other girls waiting their turn and having to watch the other girls get spanked before them. On occasion, when we have enough models present, we also do some of the larger classroom scenes in which not everyone is spanked. As often as possible, I always try to have a on camera witness for all of the school paddling scenes that we do, due to the fact that this is standard policy in most US schools that allow corporal punishment as a form of discipline. Generally in a two girl shoot, both models end up getting spanked, but on occasion, sometimes we just like to have one watch, like in this scene:
But the original question that this post is directed at was “Also, did you ever do any scenes where a passive observer just stood around watching the actual spanking?”. I think it came from the discussion that took place in which I wrote of the time that Sarah, asked if our video editor could be allowed to watch her get spanked. She had talked to him a couple of times in passing, obviously thought he was attractive, and really just wanted him in the room to watch her get naked and spanked. The truth is, there is often someone in the room during a spanking, that is not part of the productions team, is not a model, or even an employee. There are a couple of reasons that this takes place.
The first reason is the fact that we offer a model referral program. If a model recommends someone to us, and we end up hiring them, we pay the model a fee for bringing us a new model. Many girls who have been referred, really never set out to be a spanking model, but simply come because their friend is making so much money. Because the whole spanking concept makes them nervous, we allow them to come in and watch their friend be spanked if they want to, just to see what it is like. We give them the choice of just sitting off camera and watching, or taking part in the scene without actually being spanked. The picture below is one of Tess’s best friends, getting paid to be on camera, but not actually being spanked. In her case, she chose not to become a spanking model (although she did do some nude modeling for some of Miss J’s more artistic photography projects), but her presence added a lot to the video:
Sometimes a model brings in a friend to watch, and after watching one scene she decides that it doesn’t look all that bad and decides to jump right in and have her own bottom spanked. A good example is Tiffany’s friend Brittany. She sat in the background and watched Tiffany take a good spanking, and before we were setup for the next scene, she was filling out a model release, which led to the afternoon that produced these scenes:
There was a day in which Jennifer brought in a friend, and after she witnessed Jennifer’s first scene, you can only imagine her hesitation being that Jennifer gets spanked so hard. We explained to her that not every model is spanked as hard as Jennifer and that we could work her in slowly. She was included in the next scene, and while Jennifer received her typical severe bare bottom punishment followed by uncomfortable corner time, her friend took a moderate strapping over her jeans for her first scene. It was quite interesting watching the different expressions on the friend’s face as she simply witnessed the first scene and the expression on her face when she knew she was next. The scene she was not a part of she was completely fascinated with, smiling, a little embarrassed, but clearly quite interested in the whole process. But in the scene that she witnessed and was then to be spanked herself, there was a much bigger sense of reality setting in, and she could barely even watch Jennifer being spanked.
The other reason that there is sometimes someone else watching a scene take place is safety and comfort. Many of the models that come to us have a boyfriend, who is not all that thrilled about what they are looking to do as a model. We understand this feeling and while we prefer to not have boyfriends present, every model has the choice to bring her boyfriend, or any friend, to their first shoot if it will make them feel comfortable. We have actually had models bring a close male friend that was not even their boyfriend, just so they could feel more secure. Those days were always quite entertaining as the girl begins to realize that she just brought someone she hangs out with socially, and then the fact that she is about to be fully naked in front of this guy. It is fun to watch the guy pretending it is no big deal that this girl he hangs out with is now naked in front of him. On almost all occasions, once the model and the boyfriend see how we conduct ourselves, they do not feel the need to have someone present in the future. There have been times that after my 30 minute preshoot interview with a model before her punishment profile, that the guy has said, “alright, this is legit, you guys are pros, I have no more concerns” and then he just leaves before the shooting ever begins.
On very rare occasions, the boyfriend can be a big pain in the ass. A perfect example is our model Liz. Liz was great in every scene she ever did. She is young and petite, her butt bruises from even a hand spanking, and she pretty much would always burst into to tears as soon as the spanking began. The problem with her turned out to be the boyfriend. He demanded to present for all shoots, which we allowed because she was a good model. He also made it clear that she would only be spanked by female models and that no guy would be touching her butt, which we also worked with because she was a good model. But the thing that finally killed it all for us, is he was not content just watching, he wanted to tell us after each scene how we should be doing it, what would be more sexy, and basically just trying to be a back seat director. Now Miss J, Lady D, and myself are able to put up with quite a bit in our shoots, but this guy was driving me nuts. We never really told him to shut up and we never really fired her, I decided to let the problem fix itself. After her last shoot with us, as Liz and her boyfriend and Lady D were trying to work her into the schedule, I walked in the room and said “sorry, we have done enough F/f scenes with Liz, next time she comes in, I will be spanking her, so give that some thought and then call us and we will get you right in”. That was the last time we ever heard from her, which is a shame because scenes like the one below were simply amazing:
There have also been the few rare occasions in which fans and members of our sites have been allowed to watch scenes. There are some members that we have grown close to and have helped us out in a big way with their participation on the forum, or reviewing our videos for us, or making implements and things such as this. A select few have been able to come and just be part of the staff for the day and watch everything that we do (with each and every model’s consent, allowing them to be in the room).
To finish this with where I started it, I will give the full details of the Sarah story that I have not revealed. The day the Sarah asked if our editor could watch her be spanked, she brought a friend with her who wanted to check the whole thing out. Girls as beautiful as Sarah tend to travel in packs, so you can only imagine how amazing this girl looked. So on that particular day, Sarah’s spankings were witnessed by two additional people. When the shooting was over it seemed that the friend had been more curious than interested and decided not to become a spanking model. But as I was walking the girls to the door after all of the shoots, Sarah’s friend told us to hold on and she walked back to the editor’s office for a moment came right back, then the girls left. I walked back and asked him what she had said, and he replied “nothing, she just handed me her phone number”. Now that is a good day for a guy who works in front of a computer screen all day. First our most beautiful model requests that he watch her get naked and spanked, then her even more beautiful friend gives him her phone number without even be asked for it. Some guys have all the luck (and looks it seems).
Comments:A great answer to my question. I just find that the simple presence of witnesses shifts the whole scene into the next gear. Even in vanilla porn, I find that the pics that attract my attention most are those naked-in-public shots where the girl is on a busy street surrounded by people who are clearly not a part of the production. At any rate, all of the above stories are great.
Ah, Tiffany. As I recall she and Brittany were makeup and hair techs on your movie shoots? We could have a debate on whether Tiffany had the nicest breasts in the history (so far) of the studio. It depends on one's criteria. Some might say that Jessica's incredibly firm, perfectly shaped breasts are unbeatable. Michelle would be a candidate. Many others I'm not mentioning. But Tiffany has to be in the conversation somewhere. Too bad you never got her into a dungeon scene with breast punishments. But as I recall, she wasn't TOO crazy about just being spanked.
That's so funny about a first-time model bringing a vanilla friend as her wingman and then realizing, um, I'm about to be naked and exposed and having my butt smacked. Did I think this all the way through? The ones who left after the interview either had someplace they really, really needed to be, or were gay, or were a lot nobler than I am.
Again, thanks for great behind-the-scenes stories. Keep telling these long enough and maybe the job will start looking better to you, in retrospect.
Oh, and Raymond, I think those public nudity shots are hot too, as long as it's not a known skank like Madonna who would have sex on the altar of a church during a service just to be doing it. But when it looks playful, it's great.
That's going to cause you grief, Michael. You should edit that before it's too late.